Why do I see lightning first and hear the thunder later?
Your guess
Pick one before you read on. It is fine to be wrong.
By the end you can
Explain why we see lightning before we hear thunder
Estimate a storm's distance by counting from flash to thunder
Tariq watches a storm far away. A flash lights up the sky. A few seconds later he hears a rumble. The flash and the thunder began at the same moment. Why did they reach him at different times?
The speed of sound in air is about 340 metres each second. We write about 340 m/s. It changes a little with the temperature.
Light is far faster. The speed of light is about 300 000 kilometres each second. That is more than 7 times round the Earth in one second.
Draw it first
Draw a flash, light and sound
1 Draw the flash on one side and yourself on the other.
2 Draw an arrow for the light. It arrives almost at once, so you see the flash.
3 Draw an arrow for the sound. It is slower, so it arrives much later, and you hear the thunder.
Sound is not the same speed in everything. It travels about 340 m/s in air. It is faster in water, at about 1500 m/s. It is faster still in a solid, such as iron, at about 5000 m/s or more.
Sound goes fastest in a solid and slowest in air. In a solid the particles are held tightly to each other. Each one passes the push on quickly.
Now you can work out how far away a storm is. The sound goes about 340 metres every second. So distance = speed × time.
Tariq counts 6 seconds from the flash to the thunder. How far away is the storm?
Worked example
Tariq counts 6 s from the flash to the thunder. How far away is the lightning?
Distance = speed × time. The speed of sound is about 340 m/s.
340 × 6 = 2040 m.
There are 1000 m in 1 km. So the storm is about 2 km away.
Answer: 2040 m
There is a quicker way. In 3 seconds, sound goes about 1 kilometre, because 3 × 340 is about 1000. So divide the seconds by 3 to get the kilometres.
See it three ways
As a picture
In words
Count the seconds from the flash to the thunder. Every 3 seconds is about 1 kilometre of distance.
In symbols
kilometres ≈ seconds ÷ 3.
Worked example
Kofi counts 10 s from the flash to the thunder. How far away is the storm in kilometres?
Distance = speed × time. The speed of sound is about 340 m/s.
340 × 10 = 3400 m.
3400 m ÷ 1000 = 3.4 km.
Answer: 3.4 km
Try it
Learn to count seconds, and make a storm ruler
You need: a friend with a watch or a clock that shows seconds, paper and a pencil.
Be safe: Count a real storm only from indoors or from inside a closed vehicle. Stay away from windows, water and metal. If you can hear thunder, stay inside.
Say "one thousand and one, one thousand and two" aloud. Each count should take one second.
Ask your friend to time ten counts. Adjust your speed until ten counts take ten seconds.
Now divide each of these counts by 3: 3, 6, 9, 12 and 15. Write the kilometres next to each.
Next time there is a storm, count only from indoors or a closed vehicle. Count from the flash to the thunder, and use your ruler.
What you will see: Each count of 3 seconds adds about 1 kilometre. If the gap grows from one flash to the next, the storm is moving away. If it shrinks, the storm is coming closer.
If you cannot try it, this is what happens.
A wrong idea many people have
The thunder happens later than the lightning.
Why it feels right: You always see the flash first and hear the rumble afterwards.
The test that breaks it: Ask a friend to hit two pots together far away across a field, and watch. You see the pots meet. A moment later, you hear the clang. The clang was made when the pots met.
What is true: The flash and the thunder start together. Light arrives almost at once, and sound arrives later.
Key words
speed of sound
how far sound goes in one second. In air it is about 340 m/s.
speed of light
how far light goes in one second. It is about 300 000 km.
Back to your guess
The answer is A: Light travels far faster than sound, so the flash reaches you almost at once.
The flash and the thunder start together. Light is far faster than sound, so the flash reaches you almost at once. The sound is left behind and arrives later.
Check yourself
Try each one before you look. A wrong answer tells you where to go next.
Why do we see lightning before we hear thunder?
See the answer
Light travels far faster than sound.
Light goes about 300 000 km each second and sound about 340 m each second. The flash arrives almost at once, and the thunder arrives later.
If you chose A: They start together. Sound takes longer to reach you. Go to S3.9.7.
If you chose C: They go the same distance. Sound is much slower than light. Go to S3.9.7.
Ana counts 9 seconds from a flash to the thunder. About how far away is the storm?
See the answer
3 km
Sound goes about 1 km in 3 s. 9 ÷ 3 = 3 km.
If you chose A: You used the seconds as kilometres. Divide the seconds by 3 to get kilometres. Go to S3.9.7.
If you chose B: You multiplied by 3. Sound goes 1 km in 3 s, so you divide by 3. Go to S3.9.7.
If you chose C: You took 3 away. The rule is to divide the seconds by 3. Go to S3.9.7.
Sound goes 340 m each second in air. How far does it go in 5 s?
See the answer
1700 m
Distance = speed × time = 340 × 5 = 1700 m.
If you chose A: You divided the speed by the time. To find a distance, multiply the speed by the time. Go to S3.9.7.
If you chose B: You added the numbers. A speed of 340 m/s means 340 metres every second, so multiply by the seconds. Go to S3.9.7.
In which of these does sound travel fastest?
See the answer
Iron.
In a solid the particles are held tightly together, so the shake passes quickly. Sound goes about 5000 m/s in iron, 1500 m/s in water and 340 m/s in air.
If you chose B: Air is the slowest of the three. Its particles are only loosely joined, so the shake passes on slowly. Go to S3.9.7.
If you chose C: Water is faster than air, but a solid is faster still. Go to S3.9.7.
Joseph is outside and hears thunder. What should he do?
See the answer
Go indoors, or into a closed vehicle.
If you can hear thunder, lightning can reach you. Go inside at once. You can count from there.
If you chose A: If you can hear thunder, lightning can reach you. Count only from a safe place. Go to S3.9.7.
If you chose C: A tall tree can be struck. Never shelter under one in a storm. Go to S3.9.7.
From an earlier chapter
Review: why can sound not cross empty space?
See the answer
There are no particles to pass the shake along.
A sound wave is squashed and stretched particles. Empty space has almost none, so sound cannot cross it.
If you chose A: Cold air still carries sound. What is missing in space is the particles. Go to S3.9.6.
If you chose B: Distance is not the reason. A sound cannot even start to travel with nothing to shake. Go to S3.9.6.
Keep it
Copy this into your exercise book.
Light is far faster than sound, so we see lightning first. Sound goes about 340 m/s. Divide the seconds from flash to thunder by 3 to find the kilometres.
Draw: A flash on the left and you on the right. A short arrow for light and a long wait for sound. Write seconds ÷ 3 = km.